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Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26510
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Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update

Posted on August 21, 2016 by Jeremiah

Has the fur market bottomed out? It’s tough to say, but it’s also hard to imagine prices could get any lower.

The major spring fur auctions brought very disappointing results. Here’s a recap of average fur prices from North American Fur Auctions:

Muskrat – $2.65
Otter – $21.34
Mink – $7.95
Coyote – $6 – $68 (Easterns $30, Westerns $68
Raccoon – $2 – $6 (no, that’s not a typo!)
Beaver – $8 (again, not a typo)
Red Fox – $14
Bobcat – (Eastern $40, Western $260)

Raccoon and beaver make up a great deal of the market for utility furs, and prices as low as this are tough to swallow. Oil prices continue to be low, the Russian and Chinese economies continue to struggle, and that means we’re probably in for another season of low fur prices.

It’s obvious that the price of most furs has dipped below the cost of production, and the recreational and wildlife management elements of trapping are what’s keeping the supply level up. Demand continues to be low, but fur prices will come back. Just don’t plan on making much money trapping this fall.

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Re: Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26512
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There was a coon tested positive for TB in the "hot zone" in Franklin Co. People need to continue to trap coons regardless of the prices. But they don't.

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Considering how optimistic these reports usually are.....and that those are top prices for fully prime furs.....

I'd expect most fur to be unsaleable or mostly worthless.

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Originally posted by Yaz:
There was a coon tested positive for TB in the "hot zone" in Franklin Co. People need to continue to trap coons regardless of the prices. But they don't.
Yaz, what is the source for this info?

Info From the IDNR

"We have not gotten any final test results back from raccoons. The only completed test we have back is on that single deer. The rest are still pending. "


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I'm not discrediting the information, I would just like to see some kind of confirmation ..... I was passing the word on another site and was asked about it source.

Then someone got a email from DNR saying it hasn't happened.


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Brew I don't know, but thats what I've heard….if its not in writing, it didn't happen. So, take it for what its worth. It takes up to 8 weeks for in lab culture test results. So, i don't know how thats possible either.

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Originally posted by Yaz:
[b] There was a coon tested positive for TB in the "hot zone" in Franklin Co. People need to continue to trap coons regardless of the prices. But they don't.
Yaz, what is the source for this info?

Info From the IDNR

"We have not gotten any final test results back from raccoons. The only completed test we have back is on that single deer. The rest are still pending. " [/b]
Just home from the Advisory Council mtg. Here are my notes:

1. No issues with high power rifles. Approximately 20% of the deer taken were with an HPR. No one knows if the legislature will revisit the statue this session.
2. No Law Enforcement @ mtg so I couldn't ask about injuries etc. from this season. I'll find out next week.
3. TB update: 3 cattle herds have been affected. 2 of those herds have been depopulated and negotiations are on-going on the 3rd. 1 whitetail and 1 raccoon were found to have TB. 2000 hunters submitted samples in the management/surveillence zones. DNR staff stated that the strain being found is from captive cervid high fence outbreak. Costs to DNR were approx $200k in manpower and $100k in testing. Because of the public response supplying TB samples the sharpshooters have been called off. Could have cost upwards of $1,000,000 if they had been used.
4. Extensive discussion on new fee increases. Short term fix until a new funding plan can be designed. New 3 year licenses seem to be a large part of this initiative. Since the fee increase is not a rule change but a non-rule policy change it doesn't have to go through a public hearing. If you wish to make comments on this change either attend next week's NRC meeting or contact one of the Commission members with your comments. Advisory Council passed the fee increase forward with a favorable reccomendation. Fees would become effective on April 1, 2017.
5. Discussions going on about bobcat season.
6. John Davis spoke about Goose Pond Shooting Range possiblity and about trail funding.
7. Chris Smith mentioned the legislature and the upcoming forestry bills which will inhibit the existing forestry plan; also mentioned the DNR omnibus bill which has mainly corrections the DNR usually makes.


There is your confirmation Brew!!!!! Just kills you when somebody knows something that you can't find proof of on the internet......doesn't it???? laugh There are 'verbal" conformations on this kind of stuff long before it goes through the red tape of being made public. :rolleyes: cool

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Originally posted by Yaz:
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Originally posted by BREW...:
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Originally posted by Yaz:
[b] There was a coon tested positive for TB in the "hot zone" in Franklin Co. People need to continue to trap coons regardless of the prices. But they don't.
Yaz, what is the source for this info?

Info From the IDNR

"We have not gotten any final test results back from raccoons. The only completed test we have back is on that single deer. The rest are still pending. " [/b]
Just home from the Advisory Council mtg. Here are my notes:

1. No issues with high power rifles. Approximately 20% of the deer taken were with an HPR. No one knows if the legislature will revisit the statue this session.
2. No Law Enforcement @ mtg so I couldn't ask about injuries etc. from this season. I'll find out next week.
3. TB update: 3 cattle herds have been affected. 2 of those herds have been depopulated and negotiations are on-going on the 3rd. 1 whitetail and 1 raccoon were found to have TB. 2000 hunters submitted samples in the management/surveillence zones. DNR staff stated that the strain being found is from captive cervid high fence outbreak. Costs to DNR were approx $200k in manpower and $100k in testing. Because of the public response supplying TB samples the sharpshooters have been called off. Could have cost upwards of $1,000,000 if they had been used.
4. Extensive discussion on new fee increases. Short term fix until a new funding plan can be designed. New 3 year licenses seem to be a large part of this initiative. Since the fee increase is not a rule change but a non-rule policy change it doesn't have to go through a public hearing. If you wish to make comments on this change either attend next week's NRC meeting or contact one of the Commission members with your comments. Advisory Council passed the fee increase forward with a favorable reccomendation. Fees would become effective on April 1, 2017.
5. Discussions going on about bobcat season.
6. John Davis spoke about Goose Pond Shooting Range possiblity and about trail funding.
7. Chris Smith mentioned the legislature and the upcoming forestry bills which will inhibit the existing forestry plan; also mentioned the DNR omnibus bill which has mainly corrections the DNR usually makes.


There is your confirmation Brew!!!!! Just kills you when somebody knows something that you can't find proof of on the internet......doesn't it???? laugh There are 'verbal" conformations on this kind of stuff long before it goes through the red tape of being made public. :rolleyes: cool [/b]
No don't affect me at all..... laugh Someone on another forum where I posted the information you posted called it BS so I ask you where you got your info!!

So keep trolling all you want.... I was trying to see why someone called it BS.... Gee,SMH :rolleyes:

BTW... The DNR had told the person asking that it wasn't so.....


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Brew I don't know, but thats what I've heard….if its not in writing, it didn't happen. So, take it for what its worth. It takes up to 8 weeks for in lab culture test results. So, i don't know how thats possible either.
Hmmm..... So someone claims positive and there was no test results yet..... Go figure! :rolleyes:


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Brew....If you only knew the truth, you'd refrain from posting your nonsense. But then again,,,the entertainment value is priceless. Carry on.... cool


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[b] Brew I don't know, but thats what I've heard….if its not in writing, it didn't happen. So, take it for what its worth. It takes up to 8 weeks for in lab culture test results. So, i don't know how thats possible either.
Hmmm..... So someone claims positive and there was no test results yet..... Go figure! :rolleyes: [/b]
Reading comprehension would steer you to #3


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Brew....If you only knew the truth, you'd refrain from posting your nonsense. But then again,,,the entertainment value is priceless. Carry on.... cool
No weedy I ask a simple question... I actually only posted the info somewhere else because Yaz had posted it... But someone else called it BS and emailed the DNR and they said it wasn't true. So I then asked Yaz about the source of information..... So go troll your boat somewhere else Weedy and get you fact straight...SMH


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Yer retarded....SMH


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[b] Brew I don't know, but thats what I've heard….if its not in writing, it didn't happen. So, take it for what its worth. It takes up to 8 weeks for in lab culture test results. So, i don't know how thats possible either.
Hmmm..... So someone claims positive and there was no test results yet..... Go figure! :rolleyes: [/b]
Reading comprehension would steer you to #3 [/b]
So when was #3 posted Weedy??? TODAY...... Keep trolling!


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Ummmm...yes it was...retard!


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Yer retarded....SMH
Come on Weedy throw one of epileptic fits your know for here!!!

Keep trolling...... Carry on cool


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Lol.... Come on Weed lets see your "epileptic fit" your famous for here!

Keep posting your childish bannter/name calling as usual.... SMH


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Once again you were proven wrong in regards to TB ...and fail to accept it. Retardation....
Weedy..... Look in the mirror the picture maybe clearer... lol

BTW..... Grow up your childish banter is growing old!


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Were you wrong on the TB found in the racoon, or not Einstein?? confused cool

You spelled banter incorrectly...retard.
You need to go back and re-read the entire thread!!

Show me where I told Yaz he was WRONG!!! Personally I never doubted him... I know his family works within the DNR... I only ask for source of his information because someone else and a email from a DNR source said it hadn't happened!

Go back and re-read ...troll troll... troll your boat!


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You spelled "entire" wrong....it's not "intire"...SMH

nice edit..


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Lol.... Come on Weed lets see your "epileptic fit" your famous for here!

Keep posting your childish bannter/name calling as usual.... SMH [/QUOTE]


Brew........ just when you think we've seen it all out of you....... you put up some low class poster that makes fun of those that were born into this world with handicaps. You lie about others..... you make fun of those with handicaps here now..........

PLEASE get out of your basement, step away form your keyboard, kick the months worth of Schlitz cans away from your feet, and wipe the orange hugh off your fingers from your Cheetos lunch........ and think about what you do here...

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Lol.... Come on Weed lets see your "epileptic fit" your famous for here!

Keep posting your childish bannter/name calling as usual.... SMH [/b]
Brew........ just when you think we've seen it all out of you....... you put up some low class poster that makes fun of those that were born into this world with handicaps. You lie about others..... you make fun of those with handicaps here now..........

PLEASE get out of your basement, step away form your keyboard, kick the months worth of Schlitz cans away from your feet, and wipe the orange hugh off your fingers from your Cheetos lunch........ and think about what you do here...

Geeesh!!! [/b]
No .... Weedy posted that !!! Then he delated it why I was quoting him!
You may want check your one side facts before you miss label as usual

BTW.... Seen where I have called anyone a "retard"? That weed's childish banter.... SMH
I am sure he's not man enough to own up to it... Go figure!


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No .... Weedy posted that !!! Then he delated it why I was quoting him!
You may want check your one side facts before you miss label as usual
He takes it down..........(good move)

You've now kept that image alive.....(not good move)

Just stop it man. I work with people like this every day and they get enough Zhit thrown their way for the short time they are here on this planet. There are those here on this forum with kids suffering with this too..... can you at least take down the poster in your quotes.

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Re: Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26545
01/11/2017 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper:
Pony up and tell us that you didn't call the TB on the racoon bullchit...
I didn't..... Go re-read!!

How about that pic you posted weedy... Proud of that are you??


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Re: Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26546
01/11/2017 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper:
I posted that pic.....someone told me it was you. I deleted it. My apologies to the kid. You chose to re-post it.
The childish banter never ends for you does it....SMH

I Bet the guys at the Firehouse are proud of you.....


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Re: Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26547
01/11/2017 11:54 AM
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Have another Schlitz.....


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Re: Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26548
01/11/2017 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper:
Have another Schlitz.....
Sober as a rock..... Your a twisted person when backed into a corner with your miss information and name calling...Go figure!


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Re: Where We’re At in the Fur Market: Summer 2016 Update #26549
01/11/2017 12:04 PM
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