Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 02:54 PM
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Good points and I pretty much agree with ya. I do my best to keep track of traps in my area and have never had one killed. Had a couple caught in leg holds and snares don't have a problem with that, just wish people would realize the danger of the 220 and take precautions and not post about sticking them in holes in fences on a public website.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Surveyor4: Originally posted by Yaz: [b] Surveyor, Better read your regulations. Coyote and striped skunk are still in season. AND, as a landowner, he is ALLOWED to trap for nuisance animals at any time! You think after having the 1'st 8 rows of corn destroyed by coons every single year on my farm, I'm going to loose sleep over catching one??? You ever walked into the barn and lifted up a bale of hay to feed and been sprayed by a skunk?? I don't set for them this time of year, but if they get caught, and killed........ As far as catching a kid......I snared 10 Amish kids in holes in the fence this year!!! Trespassing little chits! I released them all with a good scolding though!!!! :p My beef isn't with anyone catching nusience animals, it is with someone posting about setting a 220 conibear in a hole in a fence. I have read a lot on this site the last couple years before signing up, so know the instant ridicule I am going to get by saying my biggest hobby in life is my coon hounds. I am a UKC licensed Master of hounds and president of a coon club. I spend thousands of dollars on my hounds, which are like my children, every year. I know the 220 is legal on dry land in Indiana as much as I wish it wasn't, just wish people would be careful with them. Yaz, no I've never been sprayed directly by a skunk, but have had it all over me from touching a dog that had. [/b]Maybe you should have asked a couple questions before you decided I was being morally unethical and criticize me. h.h.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Surveyor4: Yea, thats exactly the kind of responce I expected-coon hunters are tresspassing scum in the eyes of many on here. The tresspassing part is true.......well kind of-my dogs often tresspass as they can't read or tell where property lines are and keeping them on the property you cut them is difficult. Maybe you don't hear of trappers tresspassing, but I sure do. Regardless the biggest threats to our sports comes from those against all hunting and trapping-might want to think about that. Oh, by the way, I have trapped off and on all my life, and caught several neighbors and family members dogs, all released unharmed because I don't put killer traps on dry land! Oldest coon hunter line in the world is my dog cant read and therefor my trespassing on your property is justified. If you cant control your dog in the field then learn to accept the consequences. I loss zero sleep over whether Im going to catch someones dog in a trap on my property while trapping in a legal manner. Blaming others for your own recklessness is a lame excuse. I own and been involved with hunting dogs for over 50 years and have a kennel full now. If one of my dogs were killed on someones property while trespassing I would blame myself, try to learn from this incident and move on. . h.h.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 04:16 PM
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"I loss zero sleep over whether Im going to catch someones dog in a trap on my property while trapping in a legal manner." Yea, thats pretty much the kind of guy I had you pegged to be. If I say my thoughts\emotions on this I'll get banned. Lets just say I hope we never meet in this kind of situation.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 05:35 PM
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Surveyor,
I can appreciate your concern for your hounds. I know they don't know property lines, and can get where they are not suppose to be. I should know. My father was the president of the Treeing Walker Association for MANY years. My Mother the secretary. I followed a hound on my Dads shoulders before I could walk. We travelled all over the country night hunting. I'm NOT going to get into the wizzing match hound men get into. BUT, I can see both sides of the story. However, as a property owner, and farmer, if someones dog runs a coon onto or through my property, that don't bother me too much. ( I understand). As long as it is incidental, I let it pass. If a dog gets into my traps that I legally set, then so be it! I would NEVER go on a public site and bash someone for doing so. This is coming from a houndsman at heart! Kind of sounds to me like your "beef" is with guys trapping and killing all "your" coons that you want to run with your hounds!
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Yaz: Surveyor,
I can appreciate your concern for your hounds. I know they don't know property lines, and can get where they are not suppose to be. I should know. My father was the president of the Treeing Walker Association for MANY years. My Mother the secretary. I followed a hound on my Dads shoulders before I could walk. We travelled all over the country night hunting. I'm NOT going to get into the wizzing match hound men get into. BUT, I can see both sides of the story. However, as a property owner, and farmer, if someones dog runs a coon onto or through my property, that don't bother me too much. ( I understand). As long as it is incidental, I let it pass. If a dog gets into my traps that I legally set, then so be it! I would NEVER go on a public site and bash someone for doing so. This is coming from a houndsman at heart! Kind of sounds to me like your "beef" is with guys trapping and killing all "your" coons that you want to run with your hounds! Yaz, Im not PO about coon hunters trespassing either but to have one come on here in a trapping thread and tell me Im being unethical for legally trapping varmints off my land cause I might catch his coon dog is a little too much. Trapping forum is about trapping so lets get back on topic and talk about catchin' them varmints whatever they are. h.h. And sorry to PB for trashing his thread.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/11/2013 07:28 PM
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No beef with anyone trapping coon whatsoever. Just no use for a man who says he would loose no sleep over killing a mans dog, cat or whatever domestic animal in a wreckless set. I caught someones pitbull this year in a relaxing lock snare on my own property. Don't even know who's dog it was, but it was someones and I am very happy I chose the relaxing lock snare because I would have lost a lot of sleep killing him. This is my last post on this thread-no good can come of it. I will take the fight to the Indiana legislators and try to get the 220 banned if not under water or well above ground, like many states have already implemented.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 05:26 AM
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Looks like we have someone taking up the slack Finney left..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 05:53 AM
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I've kept my mouth shut on this one long enough. Surveyor everyone has a right to express their opinions. But to come onto a trapping forumn where we have all had a blast on this forumn this trapping season and talk about banning one of the most effective nuisance traps on the market is ridiculous. There's two simple fixes for your dog in the traps problem. 1. Keep them on your property 2. Keep them on your property. And as you seen you know I run rabbit dogs and I will be the first to admitt they don't always stay where you want them to, but would I blame a trapper for my dumb nut dog for getting caught in his trap heck no. Now either drop the bs or as Yaz says pizzzz off.
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Re: Reached my goal
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I'd hate to shoot a kid's dog...but shooting an irresponsible owner is against the law. And for the record..I have never shot a renegade dog. It's frustrating as heck to sit on stand and hear the incessant barking of what you KNOW is going on. Control them...or lose them. At my age...freebies are running slim.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper: Looks like we have someone taking up the slack Finney left..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: And what happened to Mr. Finney? Seems I haven't seen any of his postings lately. Did I miss something?
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by Yaz: Just for the record, i dont know about any body else on here, but i have NEVER caught a domestic dog in a 220, or a snare for that fact! In 40 years of trapping! Two in leg holds. One was the neighbors mutt, who i called to come help me get him out. He was pissed at his dog for running a mile from his house. The other one had a rabies tag, so i found and called the owner. They were thankful I found their lost dog. In 40 years!!! Ive never caught a dog in a 220 either but did catch my neighbors two dogs last year in snares. Both were unharmed and I released them. Bad thing was I warned him 2-3 weeks before I was going to set snares and to keep them home. This guy doesn't even have collars on them so I doubt he cares much if either one doesn't come home. I've ran his dogs off numerous times and asked him many times (especially during deer season) to keep them home. My patience's is pretty much worn out with him and his dogs. h.h.
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Surveyor4: No beef with anyone trapping coon whatsoever. Just no use for a man who says he would loose no sleep over killing a mans dog, cat or whatever domestic animal in a wreckless set. I caught someones pitbull this year in a relaxing lock snare on my own property. Don't even know who's dog it was, but it was someones and I am very happy I chose the relaxing lock snare because I would have lost a lot of sleep killing him. This is my last post on this thread-no good can come of it. I will take the fight to the Indiana legislators and try to get the 220 banned if not under water or well above ground, like many states have already implemented. If you would follow the law and keep your dog off someone else property that you DONT have permission to hunt or trial then none of this is even rellivent. Put the blame on the person who deserves it if an accident happens....YOU the dog owner!
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by shooter: Originally posted by Weedhopper: [b] Looks like we have someone taking up the slack Finney left..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: And what happened to Mr. Finney? Seems I haven't seen any of his postings lately. Did I miss something? [/b]Nah...you didn't miss a thing.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Smxk_M8tiU
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 12:17 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Surveyor4: No beef with anyone trapping coon whatsoever. Just no use for a man who says he would loose no sleep over killing a mans dog, cat or whatever domestic animal in a wreckless set. I caught someones pitbull this year in a relaxing lock snare on my own property. Don't even know who's dog it was, but it was someones and I am very happy I chose the relaxing lock snare because I would have lost a lot of sleep killing him. This is my last post on this thread-no good can come of it. I will take the fight to the Indiana legislators and try to get the 220 banned if not under water or well above ground, like many states have already implemented. [/ QUOTE]
Thats just foolish .my dogs stay right here... i expepct the same of my neighbors .. if they cant carr for thier own so be it
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Surveyor4: Just no use for a man who says he would loose no sleep over killing a mans dog, cat or whatever domestic animal in a wreckless set. I caught someones pitbull this year in a relaxing lock snare on my own property. Don't even know who's dog it was, but it was someones and I am very happy I chose the relaxing lock snare because I would have lost a lot of sleep killing him. This is my last post on this thread-no good can come of it. I will take the fight to the Indiana legislators and try to get the 220 banned if not under water or well above ground, like many states have already implemented. My buddy has dogs running all over his property because his toothless in-breed neighbors choose to be irresponsible dog owners... He has a shoot on site policy and if I had a gun last fall I would have killed a pit bull that chased a buck off... I could care less what you or anyone thinks of me if I shoot the dogs... If they choose to be irresponsible, then I will gladly absolve them of that irresponsibility, and NO I won't lose one iota bit of sleep about it either....
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 01:00 PM
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Looks like this Surveyor dude got the much-needed internet attention he was sorely lacking. Ignore the troll fellas.... Parker,,,HH,,,Yaz...keep on with the trapping updates! This forum has been awesome to follow thru the nasty months! You guys rock!!
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Re: Reached my goal
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03/12/2013 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper: Looks like this Surveyor dude got the much-needed internet attention he was sorely lacking. Ignore the troll fellas....
Parker,,,HH,,,Yaz...keep on with the trapping updates! This forum has been awesome to follow thru the nasty months! You guys rock!! +1
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