Good points and I pretty much agree with ya. I do my best to keep track of traps in my area and have never had one killed. Had a couple caught in leg holds and snares don't have a problem with that, just wish people would realize the danger of the 220 and take precautions and not post about sticking them in holes in fences on a public website.

Maybe you should have asked a couple questions before you decided I was being morally unethical and criticize me. h.h.

Oldest coon hunter line in the world is my dog cant read and therefor my trespassing on your property is justified.

If you cant control your dog in the field then learn to accept the consequences. I loss zero sleep over whether Im going to catch someones dog in a trap on my property while trapping in a legal manner. Blaming others for your own recklessness is a lame excuse.

I own and been involved with hunting dogs for over 50 years and have a kennel full now. If one of my dogs were killed on someones property while trespassing I would blame myself, try to learn from this incident and move on. . h.h.

"I loss zero sleep over whether Im going to catch someones dog in a trap on my property while trapping in a legal manner."
Yea, thats pretty much the kind of guy I had you pegged to be. If I say my thoughts\emotions on this I'll get banned. Lets just say I hope we never meet in this kind of situation.

So you'd seriously blame the landowner in that situation, trapping in a legal manner on his property?? Well alright, and ya wonder why coon hunters get the label they get. Kinda guy that'd spill his cup of coffee in a McDonald's slip and fall in it and sue the restaurant, only in America!!!

Surveyor,

I can appreciate your concern for your hounds. I know they don't know property lines, and can get where they are not suppose to be. I should know. My father was the president of the Treeing Walker Association for MANY years. My Mother the secretary. I followed a hound on my Dads shoulders before I could walk. We travelled all over the country night hunting. I'm NOT going to get into the wizzing match hound men get into. BUT, I can see both sides of the story. However, as a property owner, and farmer, if someones dog runs a coon onto or through my property, that don't bother me too much. ( I understand). As long as it is incidental, I let it pass. If a dog gets into my traps that I legally set, then so be it! I would NEVER go on a public site and bash someone for doing so. This is coming from a houndsman at heart! Kind of sounds to me like your "beef" is with guys trapping and killing all "your" coons that you want to run with your hounds!

Yaz, Im not PO about coon hunters trespassing either but to have one come on here in a trapping thread and tell me Im being unethical for legally trapping varmints off my land cause I might catch his coon dog is a little too much.

Trapping forum is about trapping so lets get back on topic and talk about catchin' them varmints whatever they are. h.h.

And sorry to PB for trashing his thread.

No beef with anyone trapping coon whatsoever. Just no use for a man who says he would loose no sleep over killing a mans dog, cat or whatever domestic animal in a wreckless set. I caught someones pitbull this year in a relaxing lock snare on my own property. Don't even know who's dog it was, but it was someones and I am very happy I chose the relaxing lock snare because I would have lost a lot of sleep killing him. This is my last post on this thread-no good can come of it. I will take the fight to the Indiana legislators and try to get the 220 banned if not under water or well above ground, like many states have already implemented.

I just find it a but ridiculous that you want to have something outlawed, trapping with a 220, to solve another problem that is created by trespassing, usually. Remember, there is a leash law in Indiana also. I have little patience with any dog or cat on our family farm that is there without permission. I also find it a bit funny that in an earlier post you suggest sportsmen should stick together, yet you appear to not hesitate to go to the legislature to take something away from sportsmen to get your own way because you can't control you dog.

If your whole reason for signing on here was to say you are going to try to get the 220 banned above ground, why didnt you just say it?? Ever have valuable livestock killed by running dogs or coyotes? I HAVE! On more than one occasion. I WILL do what ever it takes to keep from loosing my animals. Its for damned sure the dogs owners will never take responsibility! Good luck in your attempts. Now PISS OFF!

Sorry Parkerbow for trashing your thread!!! Guess you spoke too soon about no dickering on these threads! :rolleyes: We made it ALMOST two seasons without it though!

Looks like we have someone taking up the slack Finney left..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Spot on weed!

Just for the record, i dont know about any body else on here, but i have NEVER caught a domestic dog in a 220, or a snare for that fact! In 40 years of trapping! Two in leg holds. One was the neighbors mutt, who i called to come help me get him out. He was pissed at his dog for running a mile from his house. The other one had a rabies tag, so i found and called the owner. They were thankful I found their lost dog. In 40 years!!!

I've kept my mouth shut on this one long enough. Surveyor everyone has a right to express their opinions. But to come onto a trapping forumn where we have all had a blast on this forumn this trapping season and talk about banning one of the most effective nuisance traps on the market is ridiculous. There's two simple fixes for your dog in the traps problem. 1. Keep them on your property 2. Keep them on your property. And as you seen you know I run rabbit dogs and I will be the first to admitt they don't always stay where you want them to, but would I blame a trapper for my dumb nut dog for getting caught in his trap heck no. Now either drop the bs or as Yaz says pizzzz off.

I'd hate to shoot a kid's dog...but shooting an irresponsible owner is against the law. And for the record..I have never shot a renegade dog. It's frustrating as heck to sit on stand and hear the incessant barking of what you KNOW is going on.

Control them...or lose them. At my age...freebies are running slim.

And what happened to Mr. Finney? Seems I haven't seen any of his postings lately. Did I miss something?

Ive never caught a dog in a 220 either but did catch my neighbors two dogs last year in snares. Both were unharmed and I released them.

Bad thing was I warned him 2-3 weeks before I was going to set snares and to keep them home. This guy doesn't even have collars on them so I doubt he cares much if either one doesn't come home. I've ran his dogs off numerous times and asked him many times (especially during deer season) to keep them home. My patience's is pretty much worn out with him and his dogs. h.h.

If you would follow the law and keep your dog off someone else property that you DONT have permission to hunt or trial then none of this is even rellivent. Put the blame on the person who deserves it if an accident happens....YOU the dog owner!

Nah...you didn't miss a thing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Smxk_M8tiU

Sorry PB...I got distracted... :rolleyes:

You ain't right!!!

I kind of liked that video.....thanks Weed. h.h.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Surveyor4:
No beef with anyone trapping coon whatsoever. Just no use for a man who says he would loose no sleep over killing a mans dog, cat or whatever domestic animal in a wreckless set. I caught someones pitbull this year in a relaxing lock snare on my own property. Don't even know who's dog it was, but it was someones and I am very happy I chose the relaxing lock snare because I would have lost a lot of sleep killing him. This is my last post on this thread-no good can come of it. I will take the fight to the Indiana legislators and try to get the 220 banned if not under water or well above ground, like many states have already implemented. [/
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Thats just foolish
.my dogs stay right here... i expepct the same of my neighbors .. if they cant carr for thier own so be it

It's Ok fellas to stick up for what we believe in. I am sure none of us put a trap in to purposely catch a non target animal such as the neighbors dog, but it does happen occationally and will continue to happen if you trap long enough. I too agree owners need to keep their dogs on their own property. Also Surveyor, you said you use relaxing locks on your snares. Well there is no guarantee a dog or other animal caught in a relaxing lock cannot still be killed by it. Such as hanging itself by entanglement. Should we ban snares. Come on... Don't sign up on here and go to the trapping forum and assume we are non responsible. you get a another "whizz off from me"

Ditto Parker....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9EKqQWPjyo

My buddy has dogs running all over his property because his toothless in-breed neighbors choose to be irresponsible dog owners... He has a shoot on site policy and if I had a gun last fall I would have killed a pit bull that chased a buck off...

I could care less what you or anyone thinks of me if I shoot the dogs... If they choose to be irresponsible, then I will gladly absolve them of that irresponsibility, and NO I won't lose one iota bit of sleep about it either....

Looks like this Surveyor dude got the much-needed internet attention he was sorely lacking. Ignore the troll fellas....

Parker,,,HH,,,Yaz...keep on with the trapping updates! This forum has been awesome to follow thru the nasty months! You guys rock!!

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