Re: On line check in ?s
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12/30/2014 10:47 AM
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You can still get a Metal tag at some places now....Next year that may change if the proposal passes
312 IAC 9-3-4 and requires check station operators to check-in deer using the DNR’s electronic harvest reporting system. Changes to the licensing system are in the process, and retailers will be able to check-in deer and turkey for hunters through a system similar to the current licensing system
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/30/2014 10:55 AM
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Check stations still exist. My buck was checked in at a small retailer in Cross Plains last month. No idea regarding any phase out of that process?
If it ever goes 100% electronic check in, one would assume data could be easily tracked during hunting season. That said, I hope they never phase out check stations.
Not sure what periodic harvest reports would gain. I just can't envision a county by county quota system?
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/30/2014 02:00 PM
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I thought I read they will phase out the metal bands and the check-in station will just have to provide you with a number, don't know what form that would be in, but probably something printed or hand written on paper and attached like the temp transport tag.
In theory, if every deer legally taken were checked in electronically, either by punching it in on the phone or typing it in a computer and it required details such as the hunter's license number, date (maybe even estimated time), county it was taken in, antlered or antlerless and weapon, they wouldn't have to wait on any check in station to submit written records and for someone to enter all that info. Then the data (harvest numbers) could be pulled up fairly quickly and easily at any time and they could do a lot of analysis with those data points. Dual use; purely administrative and in-depth research.
The time would be interesting if it was time the shot was taken. It wouldn't be hard for them to write code that could pull the weather conditions, moon phase, etc. for the time and location and add that to the data for insight into deer movement.
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/30/2014 03:01 PM
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Tele check will always create a less confidence in numbers reported but I don't really think anyone really cares. There were imperfections in the local man and pop process. Most game agencies have a supposed factor, or at least used to, for the number that aren't checked in. That factor is probably reasonably the same year after year once tele check was implemented. It would be interesting to hear what Indiana thinks that factor was before and after implementation. If everything can be electronically performed and then updated to a website, it would interesting I guess but with costs being cut at the agency it would be a waste to have time and effort to any manual effort used to provide updates, in my opinion.
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/31/2014 05:46 AM
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The answer is it would be very simple to provide real time numbers. Whether or not they decide to do this or release the numbers is up to the agency.
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/31/2014 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by delaney: Tele check will always create a less confidence in numbers reported but I don't really think anyone really cares. There were imperfections in the local man and pop process. Most game agencies have a supposed factor, or at least used to, for the number that aren't checked in. That factor is probably reasonably the same year after year once tele check was implemented. It would be interesting to hear what Indiana thinks that factor was before and after implementation. If everything can be electronically performed and then updated to a website, it would interesting I guess but with costs being cut at the agency it would be a waste to have time and effort to any manual effort used to provide updates, in my opinion. IF telecheck led to cheating....the reported numbers would go down....they have not. Just the opposite has happened.
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/31/2014 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by trapperDave: [QUOTE]IF telecheck led to cheating....the reported numbers would go down....they have not. Just the opposite has happened. Sorry, but that is just poor logic. It only makes sense if you know what the checked deer numbers would have been without telecheck. We have absolutely no way of knowing that. Saw someone post a similar statement on the HPR thread. Truth is, if HPR's are approved and we kill the same or fewer deer the following season, it does not mean HPR's were irrelevant in the equation. In such a scenario, HPR's might have significant impact...low impact...or somewhere in between...and we are left guessing. We have no idea what the harvest numbers are going to look like year to year....or how a rule change or two affected those numbers. Why on earth would we trust such an unknown as a gage?
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/31/2014 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by trapperDave: Originally posted by delaney: [b] Tele check will always create a less confidence in numbers reported but I don't really think anyone really cares. There were imperfections in the local man and pop process. Most game agencies have a supposed factor, or at least used to, for the number that aren't checked in. That factor is probably reasonably the same year after year once tele check was implemented. It would be interesting to hear what Indiana thinks that factor was before and after implementation. If everything can be electronically performed and then updated to a website, it would interesting I guess but with costs being cut at the agency it would be a waste to have time and effort to any manual effort used to provide updates, in my opinion. IF telecheck led to cheating....the reported numbers would go down....they have not. Just the opposite has happened. [/b]But…..haven't the reported numbers been going down?? Not saying it is because of telecheck…..but they have, because of reduced deer #'s. So, how would one even know??
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/31/2014 07:23 AM
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I'm not sure the reported numbers would necessarily go down because of a telecheck system. Instead, the real question is whether folks feel a greater "security" of being able to continue to hunt and possibly not report when they are down to their last tag or such.
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Re: On line check in ?s
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12/31/2014 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by pav:
Not sure what periodic harvest reports would gain. I just can't envision a county by county quota system? PAV, I didn't ask the questions to get any of the other "stuff" started. Its just been so long since I've had the opportunity to check a deer, I haven't followed it, and honestly didn't know. I DID enjoy sitting at the supper table on my laptop checking in a deer. Very easy, and simple. The leading question was based on the possibility (dream) of a quota system on counties. Maybe not so much on the higher density counties, but ones that really need more control. But, I'm assuming that would involve some extra effort on the DNR's part and knowing how many deer are there, and them actually SAYING where they want the population to be at………..
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