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a sad day for Indiana and their wild cervids...


Tuesday, April 02, 2013

Indiana panel votes to allow fenced deer preserves 'shooting pens'


http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/04/ind-panel-votes-to-allow-fenced-deer.html


Tuesday, April 02, 2013

IMPORTANT: Cervid Industry and State Veterinarians on Rewriting Chronic Wasting Disease Rule

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/04/important-cervid-industry-and-state.html

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Terry,

Responses from legislators like Rep Cindy Kirchhoffer state they do not believe CWD is a threat to Indiana hunters or deer. Keep in mind the only testimony they heard were those vets promoting the industry. Our DNR never get to be heard


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Re: Indiana panel votes to allow fenced deer preserves 'shooting pens' #1001
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sadly, we have sat by and watched our legislators in office and their lobbyist for the industries in question i.e. shooting pens, from state to state, watched them turn our wild cervid and habitat there from, into a private livestock commodity, i.e. commerce.


God put man in charge of the beast and what did man do, fenced them in, put a cow bell on the back of a truck at feeding time for the cervids to come to slaughter, and then call that hunting.


that is not what i call it.


yep, while the Texas deer czar dr. dough was off to Wisconsin pushing the privately owned shooting pen industry (livestock cervids industry), Texas fell to CWD, and Texas just reported 4 more CWD postives. ...


for your information...


According to Wisconsin’s White-Tailed Deer Trustee Dr. James Kroll, people who call for more public hunting opportunities are “pining for socialism.” He further states, “(Public) Game management is the last bastion of communism.”


“Game Management,” says James Kroll, driving to his high-fenced, two-hundred-acre spread near Nacogdoches, “is the last bastion of communism.” Kroll, also known as Dr. Deer, is the director of the Forestry Resources Institute of Texas at Stephen F. Austin State University, and the “management” he is referring to is the sort practiced by the State of Texas. The 55-year-old Kroll is the leading light in the field of private deer management as a means to add value to the land. His belief is so absolute that some detractors refer to him as Dr. Dough, implying that his eye is on the bottom line more than on the natural world.


Kroll, who has been the foremost proponent of deer ranching in Texas for more than thirty years, doesn’t mind the controversy and certainly doesn’t fade in the heat. People who call for more public lands are “cocktail conservationists,” he says, who are really pining for socialism. He calls national parks “wildlife ghettos” and flatly accuses the government of gross mismanagement. He argues that his relatively tiny acreage, marked by eight-foot fences and posted signs warning off would-be poachers, is a better model for keeping what’s natural natural while making money off the land.


Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Dr. James C. Kroll Texas deer czar final report on Wisconsin

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/07/dr-james-c-kroll-texas-deer-czar-final.html


Friday, June 01, 2012

*** TEXAS DEER CZAR TO WISCONSIN ASK TO EXPLAIN COMMENTS

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/06/texas-deer-czar-to-wisconsin-ask-to.html


Thursday, March 29, 2012


TEXAS DEER CZAR SAYS WISCONSIN DNR NOT DOING ENOUGH ABOUT CWD LIKE POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/03/texas-deer-czar-says-wisconsin-dnr-not.html


Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Chronic Wasting Disease Detected in Far West Texas

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/newsmedia/releases/?req=20120710a


http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/07/chronic-wasting-disease-detected-in-far.html


Monday, February 11, 2013

TEXAS CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD Four New Positives Found in Trans Pecos

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/02/texas-chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-four.html


http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/

Re: Indiana panel votes to allow fenced deer preserves 'shooting pens' #1002
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Interesting situation with Dr. Kroll. It's a fine line between trophy management, private enterprise and venture capitalists. To suggest that public areas are ghettos is an interesting twist and one that some might suggest only an elite oriented person would take. It's all a matter of perspective and everyone is entitled to their perspective. However, in the end analysis, it is always interesting to follow a money trail and see who is in it from a theory, ethical and virtuous standpoint and who is in it for money and self interest. Don't really know which one Dr. Kroll is in it for specifically, but I imagine each can make a thorough assessment on their own based upon impression and facts.


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The bill as amended plus new amendments has passed second reading in the House and ordered to engrossment.

It's now up to Senator Long to kill it.


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let's hope Senator Long does not flip flop on this. ...

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He won't. As of now anyway..


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Tuesday, April 16, 2013

Cervid Industry Unites To Set Direction for CWD Reform and seem to ignore their ignorance and denial in their role in spreading Chronic Wasting Disease


http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/04/cervid-industry-unites-to-set-direction.html





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This is the reply I received after I sent an e-mail to the Gov.

Dear Mr. Kelso,


Thank you for your letter to Governor Pence. He appreciates the time you took to express your views. I apologize for not being able to respond to your email sooner.


Senate Bill 487, shooting and hunting preserves was not passed by the Indiana General Assembly and therefore was not sent to the governor's desk for consideration. The 2013 Bill Watch on the governor's website has been established. All legislation that has been sent to the governor's office for consideration can be viewed at http://www.in.gov/gov/billwatch.htm.


Please be assured that Governor Pence monitors all legislation closely as it proceeds through the legislative process and will thoroughly review all bills that are brought to him for his signature.


Thank you for contacting Governor Pence and for being an engaged citizen.


Sincerely,


Kristen Kane

Constituent Services Representative

Office of the Governor


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Re: Indiana panel votes to allow fenced deer preserves 'shooting pens' #1009
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Don't let them fool you....... Pence was ready to allow deer shooting preseves! the Governor has REFUSED to meet with sportsmen groups before the election or after.

Rob Carter(IDNR Director) was not confirmed after the election so he sought "other" employment. Now after his resignation, in which he agreed to stay until a replacement was named, he still is waiting.

IMO....... Governor Pence has little regard for the Division of Natural Resources!

This comes from a staunch Republican voter!


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there's a part of me that cant blame the Governor for not wanting to talk to the sportsmens groups after all the BS, name calling, whining and crying the past couple years over new deer regs. Many acted like spoiled little two year olds when they didnt get their way.


bottom line, if you want to beat this you HAVE to get the cattlemen on your side and vocal. IMHO


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Trad, you make a reasonable point. Except for this issue and the risk of disease, sportsmen have generally shown no interest in the big picture of wildlife or support of the DNR. There simply is no reason for the political system to care about sportsmen, especially in today's world. Changing societal demographics and economics has left sportsmen meaningless in Indiana and in many other states. Added with the fact that sportsmen still are in a 1980's mindset as to how issues are won or lost in the political world. B

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There are also some who are questioning whether Pence is really even interested in serving long as governor, or just using the seat as a waypoint to a run for President in 2016. I didn't agree with a lot of things Mitch did, but at least it seemed he was paying attention to what the issues were...


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Quote
Originally posted by jkd:
There are also some who are questioning whether Pence is really even interested in serving long as governor, or just using the seat as a waypoint to a run for President in 2016. I didn't agree with a lot of things Mitch did, but at least it seemed he was paying attention to what the issues were...
So far Pence is turning out to be the Governor I figured he was going to be.... An absolute bore!

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OK I'll say it since nobody else will...

The problem isnt ALL the elected fault.. ( though I do agree they aren't much help either)

The problem is the complacency of Joe sportsman.. sure a few of us on this site and others try their best but by percentage we don't add up to much when compared to the overall number of hunters there are in the state... the occasional email isn't going to do much either..
The trick is to make it a non hunting issue and get local and state media to get on board.. state wide!


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Thank you Keith.

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Just a thought.....


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Well .. who wants to chit or get off the pot here?

How about some new blood on this thing.

Let's just kill it or stop bitchin about it.

With love

Gundude


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Wednesday, May 15, 2013

Intranasal Inoculation of White-Tailed Deer (Odocoileus virginianus) with Lyophilized Chronic Wasting Disease Prion Particulate Complexed to Montmorillonite Clay

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