Very interesting. Wealthy residents in some northern Indiana have had issues regarding this for a long time.

By that language you can kiss fishing within. 200 feet of shore goodbye

To resolve this issue, on May 21, 2014, the Indiana Natural Resources Commission issued an order which determined that under the prevailing statute, IC 14-15-3-17, the only motorboat operations which are permitted within 200 feet of the shoreline are trolling or approaching or leaving a dock.

So let me get this right………Private property owners that have shore along a public water and prohibit certain activities within 200' of the shore????? So the shore lines will now be littered with basically "NO TRESPASSING" signs on public water??? Ok, I can see some good, and bad in this. It would mean water roaches (jet ski's) , and regular skiing cannot be done. Thats a positive!!!! However, I thought there was regs in place for that before this on going that fast near shore. But, not being able to anchor up, and fish or hunt sucks!

Where did all of this come from???? I assume the private property owners have a right a way, or their property extends to the "normal" low water elevation, and they are claiming that area when the water is a full pool???? Is this ALL public water across the state, or are they talking about a specific lake/area?

Interpretation is going to be the key.

Yaz, clear you mailbox.

Looks bLack and white to me.

Better not be bass fishing around the rich boys docks, or dropping anchor.

Only the middle of the lake is public now.

Hey kyle, you should add fishing and anchoring to the title to get everyones attention

And boating in general lol

Cleared

I think you nailed it Dave! Some bass fisherman bounced a jig off a rich boys expensive "go fast" boat at his dock, and pissed him off!!!!

"Where did all of this come from????"

Best guess would be from the "it's legal and you can't stop me" crowd . Homeowners got tired of a few folks thinking they could hunt in their back yard because it was legal . So now it is no longer legal .

Here you go! Google Tobias DNR permit appeal. I CAN understand the frustration of the property owners in this particular case, however to sheep dip the entire State with this ruling opens up a BIG ole can of worms…….

http://www.staceypageonline.com/2014/03/05/wawasee-pier-permit-denied-appeal-filed/

Big business at work again. Wonder who got paid off at the NRC? Maybe a phone call from Mitch using his good old boys tactics? Wawasee use to be one of the best bass fishing lakes in Indiana, sad to see this happen but big money always trumps logical decisions. h.h.

I agree with this. It did not come from big business, it came from a few inconsiderate jerks.

Man what a shame, caught a lot of bass off the docks at Geist and Lake Lemon....

If the law is absolute, then even homeowners can't anchor in front of their homes to hunt or fish. Seems like it will be an enforcement nightmare for quite a while.

So Eli Lilly isn't big business? If it was just a homeowner complaining you think the NRC would have done anything?

Some of you guys need to grow a pair and quit worrying about being political correct all the time. h.h.

Randal Tobias used to be the CEO of Eli Lily for those unaware.

"Some of you guys need to grow a pair and quit worrying about being political correct all the time."

Oh , I've got a pair and I don't worry about being P.C. at all .
So is it safe to say that you would be allright with me and a dozen or so friends setting up and hunting within ,say, 35 yards of your house ?

Once again, common sense, and common COURTESY has gone by the way side………causing problems for everybody!!!!

Common curtousy and common sense left the building years ago..

If you are hunting in a legal manner then its really none of my business. Im not one to call 911 ever time I hear close gun fire.

I see some of you don't really know the lake residents mentality. Basically its we own the lake and dont want the public on it! Dont believe me just go around and ask a few lake residents on how the feel about public ramps at their lake and you will quickly see what I mean.

Taking away everyone's anchoring rights because Eli Lilly executives dont want any boats anchored in their multimillion dollar lake view is ridiculous. h.h.

I think the bitterness that we all feel about this is a bit misdirected. Sure I don't like the outcome or the process that enabled this to happen but it once again highlights the lack of sportsmen representation and the lack of a sportsman organization that watches all the issues here in indiana. Fault = sportsmen.

Good post, Dave. So true in many aspects of our sport.

Some more interesting reading on this issue....

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...lfzbqXVhu-xdSjft2w&bvm=bv.68693194,d.aWw

Common courtesy solves almost every problem like this. Don't get me started with the idiot bass guys on geist. Not all tournament guys are idiots but IMO 50% are. Running on plane in coves to make weigh in, Lotta bass killed w some of the tournaments (NCAA I saw several 5lb fish laying unbagged while the fisherman talked for 10 minutes!), a##es flying by at 60 within 15 yrds or coming in literally 20-30 ft to fish on me if I'm in my open bow, guess they fig I'm not a "real fisherman". I see and hear guys all the time smackin boats w jigs around docks. Wonder if the same guys woukd care if i bounced one off theirs?

However the 200 ft ruling is complete BS. If the homeowners now "own" 200 feet of lake will they be taxed for it?

In this particular situation, it didn't sound like fisherman were the problem at all. I read into it that the party boats would pull up in front of their docks, and anchor up. Blocking them from getting in and out. I can just imagine what was said in that exchange with a bunch of drunks. Probably ended up in "FU dock owner"……..Hence starting the whole issue…..

I go out of my way to stay out of peoples way on the water. Pleasure boaters and other fishermen. I realize I have a fairly large spread when I'm fishing, and if some one is where I want to be, I go WAY out and around them and come back later…..WHen it is busy on the lake with tubers and skiers, I hug the banks. But you still get those idiots that thinks it would be funny to see how close they can get to my planers, or try to squeeze between me and the bank. IDIOTS!

+1 yaz

This particular lake has had plenty of issues over the years, including some issues for duck hunters. I have a professional friend that has a place up there and he said the duck hunters literally park within 3 feet of the bank in front of their place. Actually, he didn't care but he said his neighbors hated it. He actually would go out mid morning and talk to the guys hunting. I haven't talked to him yet about this but he just last year bought a boat to duck hunt out of and he and his boys really got into it. It'll be interesting to get his take on this.

The next thing that will eventually get pushed will be hunting within "x" yards of a residence, building or such. It's coming sooner or later and it'll probably happen without notice from most sportsmen.

Wow sounds like a few disrespectful hunters who ruined it for a lot of respectful ones.

Just because it (or in this case used to be) 'legal' does not make it 'right'.

Courtesy, common sense, and respect go a long way in situations like this.

Tobias and his neighbors did what they had to do.

It wasn't about duck hunting, it was about not being about to get out of his cove to go to main lake. I'm guessing a party cove?

Probably Kyle but this Is similar to Geist a few years ago when the residents said it wasn't really about the hunters being there but instead about safety. I knew a number of the residents there and what they didn't like was the noise and daily presence of the duck guys. So they looked for every thing they could say to get the duck guys off the lake, true or otherwise, and they did. And there have duck issues on the lake for years.

CORRECT! But ruined it for everyone including fishermen and hunters……...

Just so you guys know what the problem is, the poor rich guys living in the mansion cant get the boats out of their 150ft long pier. Their mansion use to be called the monastery and 30 years ago we could park there and walk out to ice fish, good luck with that now! Eli Lilly exec's used their money and power to get the NRC to pass the law and now the poor unsuspecting little guy will get the shaft as always. h.h.

76Chevy....once again....can you post your quotes before you respond? It's not that difficult. Really,,,it isn't... :rolleyes:

And no...the big dollar guys just had the $$ to do what a lot of folks on here wished they could do. Like keep trespassers out and protect their investment. Can you honestly blame them for doing what they had to do to get rid of idiots??

Like this, Chevy...

WRONG...... These people don't OWN the lake !!!!

The people of this state do, and they have every right to be there.... No one was Tresspasing!!!!