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Emerald Ash Bore

Posted By: jbwhttail

Emerald Ash Bore - 01/06/2015 04:17 PM

I know this will only affect a few folks on here but...... please be viligant if you own or have property that have ash trees. This past deer season we found damaged trees from the ash bore, many, many trees on our farm. It has forced us to timber a property we would not have otherwise timbered. A conservative guess is 40% of our woods is ash trees, I will never live to see the woods as it is today.

It is going to be timbered and there is a market as long as the tree is not already dead. Two years ago the State had traps on my property looking for ash bores and found none. Today I have woodpeckers shredding bark feasting on ash bores.

Be vigilant if you haven't already had these critters, read the material that is out there on what to look for. I heard that the entire state of Indiana is now under quarantine.

My only solace is that there is still a market, I can get some value now or let them die and get zero return.
Posted By: hornharvester

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/06/2015 04:30 PM

They killed all my ash trees 3 years ago up here. The wood still has value until it falls even if its dead. Logger told me he would buy the ash until it fell on the ground and then it was too late. Bad thing is if they are going to log the loggers dont want just the ash they want the other hardwood too.

Ash damage looks like "D" on its side. The round holes are wood peckers working the tree. The bore gets under the bark and eats a ring around the tree killing it.

Some of my ash are falling since this summer so Im using them as firewood. h.h.
Posted By: jbwhttail

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/06/2015 09:51 PM

You are correct HH, the ash bore drills a D shape hole.

The logger we talked to had the same idea, let's get the oak/hickory/walnut.......... that was until we explained we DID NOT need the money. We only want a value for trees that are going to die anyway.


Now to be totaly honest, there are "some" walnuts on banks of creeks we will have cut and removed. This is based on roots being washed out or root freeze from exposure. What WILL NOT happen is a "rape" of our woods, we don't need the money. What we are trying to do is clean up a disaster............ it came from China and we are sending the infected logs back to China.....

As an owner of this property, I don't have a mortatge, I own it........... I will sell the salvage wood with little regret. My heirs will see the results of this plague, I hope I planned well for the renovation......
Posted By: BREW...

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/06/2015 10:27 PM

http://www.in.gov/dnr/entomolo/5349.htm
Posted By: hornharvester

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/06/2015 11:48 PM

Logger friend told me there is a Black Walnut disease thats out in western states right now and heading this way. Estimates are about 20 years before it reaches us. Welcome to globalization. h.h.
Posted By: Steiny

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/07/2015 06:59 AM

Yep, most of the ash trees on my place and in the neighborhood are dying from the ash borers.

I'm going to be burning ash for firewood for the next couple years, and let a few friends stock up with plenty of firewood too. No point in letting it go to waste.

I don't have many in the woodlots, most are fence row trees, which will be easy to get to.

Maybe 20 years ago all of the elms got hit real hard around here which made for good mushroom hunting for a couple years after. They've since recovered.
Posted By: THROBAK

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/07/2015 09:38 AM

Joe you might think about nng a few logs cut into lumber for shooting houses and such you could cut by your barn and stickem inside and just handle one time boards are always nice to have around
Posted By: garman6

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/07/2015 12:26 PM

I work in the landscaping industry and from what I hear, its pretty muck 100% that all the ash trees are going to die. At some point or another they will get an Emerald Ash Bore and be gone. I saw a subdivision in Carmel that had them planted along the streets, thousands of trees, they had to cut them all down. This is just sickening.
Posted By: deerhunter986

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/07/2015 06:12 PM

Seen them cutting in fishers. I have an ash in my yard that needs taken down that I am sure has it. Got an uncle that cuts trees for a living just hard for him to get out here. Cut for firewood cause I need some and don't to buy it
Posted By: Yaz

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/19/2015 12:29 PM

We found the first evidence of them on our place over the weekend. We have planned to log some over the spring before planting. Might as well take out all the ash now. Problem is the market is flooded from all the ash, and they aren't worth much more than firewood.
Posted By: THROBAK

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/19/2015 03:53 PM

Couldnt you use a new ASH Barn cut em mill em build it all my floors in my house are ash it pretty durable not any diff thaan Oak that I can tell
Posted By: Bryan78

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/19/2015 07:45 PM

So what happens when all the Ash trees are gone, will this bug die out then?
Posted By: littlewagon again

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/20/2015 06:09 PM

actually it has been found that another tree is being attacked by the ash bores. there was an article i read about it and i think it was on the news also. i do not remember what the new tree was.
Posted By: THROBAK

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/20/2015 09:14 PM

FriƱge tree in the ash family
Posted By: cedarthicket

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/20/2015 09:30 PM

Too bad they don't like bush honeysuckle, autumn olive, tree of heaven, and other non-native invasive trees and shrubs.
Posted By: HatchetJack

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/20/2015 11:00 PM

We now have it in all but 4 counties in Indiana.
Posted By: jbwhttail

Re: Emerald Ash Bore - 01/21/2015 03:49 PM

Ash is gringing $0.55-$0.70 per board foot. We didn't want to cut it but...... some money is better than standing dead trees. Now we have to deduct $0.08 per board foot then split 50/50 with the logger, we also are going to harvest a limited number of walnuts. The walnut is being taken on creek banks where roots are being washed out, figured we only want the logger mess one time in the next 10-20 years.
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