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Re: Rifles - end around play #32299
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[b] And the precedent has now been set for how Indiana's hunting laws will be established. No point in even having a NRC from here forward.
The precedent was set before this bill. [/b]
Got a example of what your saying? confused [/b]
Anything hunting related in the IC was done by the Legislature. What the DNR/NRC does is IAC.

The latest example of legislative involvement in a DNR issue would be sound suppressors.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/incode/14/22

Re: Rifles - end around play #32300
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They just release the Senate roll call:
34 Yea
12 Nay


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32301
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Originally posted by Double B:
Maybe they meant 300 whisper.....I think there's an underpowered round that goes by that. Or maybe a 300 blackout? Some of you younger guys help us decipher this mess. What is a legal 300?
Technically there's only two named cartridges listed, the .30-30 and the 30-06. The rest are calibers.I would think anyone could challenge this law with this interpretation and win...IMO


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32302
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[b] That makes no sense at all.... :rolleyes: Once again, Indiana to be a laughing stock of deer regulations.
That maybe true......But the IDNR was not involved!! [/b]
I never said they were.... :rolleyes:


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32303
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Originally posted by BREW...:
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[b] That makes no sense at all.... :rolleyes: Once again, Indiana to be a laughing stock of deer regulations.
That maybe true......But the IDNR was not involved!! [/b]
I never said they were.... :rolleyes: [/b]
That's fine.....I just wanted to get that info out before the "ANTI" IDNR group started there campaign.... :rolleyes:


Stay tuned they will show up soon...


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32304
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Oo that's true, it may just be a vague .308 caliber. Maybe I'd just need a 300 blackout upper. Right on.


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32305
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Re: Rifles - end around play #32306
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Originally posted by varmint101:
AR10 it is then...with a low cap mag of course.
Matt - no need for low capacity. Just carry 10 rounds in the gun or in your pocket.


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32307
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According to a conversation today with an unnamed “inside” source, House Bill 1231 (as passed by both the House and Senate this week) will likely undergo at least one technical correction per proper Indiana General Assembly rules. That technical correction will “nail down” the meaning of the 5 cartridges noted in the bill (.243, .30-30, .300, .30-06, and .308). It is my understanding that the correction will be:

.243 Winchester
.30-30 Winchester
.300 Winchester Magnum
.30-06 Springfield
.308 Winchester

This technical correction would make the resulting bill (and law, if the Governor signs it) much more easily understood by all concerned, whether they like the bill or not. I do not know if there are any more technical corrections being considered.


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32308
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Originally posted by varmint101:
[b] AR10 it is then...with a low cap mag of course.
Matt - no need for low capacity. Just carry 10 rounds in the gun or in your pocket. [/b]
The way I read it is you can carry no more than ten rounds or you will be in violation. No matter if it is in the gun, pocket or truck. Is this right??

Re: Rifles - end around play #32309
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Originally posted by varmint101:
[b] AR10 it is then...with a low cap mag of course.
Matt - no need for low capacity. Just carry 10 rounds in the gun or in your pocket. [/b]
The way I read it is you can carry no more than ten rounds or you will be in violation. No matter if it is in the gun, pocket or truck. Is this right?? [/b]
Not sure they can control what you have in the TRUCK....your pocket and gun is a different story!

You cant hunt from in the Truck......


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32310
03/16/2016 07:51 AM
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This is no different than on some State areas that control the number of shell's you can carry for waterfowl, or areas that are non-toxic shot only, even for dove and small game... only this is being done on private.....Heck, if you need more than 10 rounds to kill deer, you best get your azz out of the woods...


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32311
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Originally posted by Jeff Valovich:
This is no different than on some State areas that control the number of shell's you can carry for waterfowl,
If I'm not mistaken, the 3 shot limit is a federal regulation that all states have to abide by because the waterfowl stamp is issued through the federal government and not through the states...

Re: Rifles - end around play #32312
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Could be, but what you talk about is the plug in the gun. I always leave my plug in, for rabbit, Pheasant, squirrel, etc. Even when I put the slug barrel on...If I cant drop it with 3 shots, it wins. I only carry 6 slugs when deer hunting....never needed more than 2. ... some state areas dont allow more than 10 shells with each hunter in the waterfowl blind ... dont think that is a fed reg... could be.... I know at Kankakee F&W area non-toxic loads are required for all shotguns and game, even Turkey or coyotes.... I use Heavy Shot non-Toxic Turkey loads if I hunt the place for Turkey ...


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32313
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Yes. Might be time to take up golf if someone needs more than 10 rounds with them while deer hunting.

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This is no different than on some State areas that control the number of shell's you can carry for waterfowl, or areas that are non-toxic shot only, even for dove and small game... only this is being done on private.....Heck, if you need more than 10 rounds to kill deer, you best get your azz out of the woods...

Re: Rifles - end around play #32314
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unless your hunting a county with a 8 bonus antlerless quota....just saying

There no way you need 10 rounds for 1 Deer though.


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32315
03/18/2016 07:59 AM
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HEA 1231 is on the governor's desk. Deadline for him to act on it (sign or veto) is 3/24. If he signs or does nothing, it becomes law.


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32316
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Brew, I ran a check station for some years... There were some deer that came in that looked like they were hit with 10 rounds, all type of shot up !!


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32317
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I got an idea. Let's make it one round. You get one shot at one deer per season regardless of equipment. You miss, the deer wins. smile

Re: Rifles - end around play #32318
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That is usually all I need is just one ....


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32319
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some guys might need to spend more time at the range and less time watching outdoor channel.

I would be good with one.

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I got an idea. Let's make it one round. You get one shot at one deer per season regardless of equipment. You miss, the deer wins. smile

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If a guy takes 5 shots a one deer then most likely rounds 3-5 are hail marys. Some guys need more rounds to make up for a poor shot selection or lack of range time. h.h.


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32321
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Just go to Walmart the night before gun season opens... eek :rolleyes:


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Ive seen the dopes in my days...had one guy come in to the store, bought a slug gun wanted a scope mounted and bore sighted, bought slugs, all the night before opening day, said he was hunting in the morning with a buddy, I asked him when is he sighting it in? .. He said some time late am, after the morning hunt, I said it is only bore sighted which will only get you on paper, he well if I can hit paper, its good enough for now he said....cant fix stupid !!


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32323
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Should have put it way OFF paper for him smile


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Originally posted by Jeff Valovich:
Ive seen the dopes in my days...had one guy come in to the store, bought a slug gun wanted a scope mounted and bore sighted, bought slugs, all the night before opening day, said he was hunting in the morning with a buddy, I asked him when is he sighting it in? .. He said some time late am, after the morning hunt, I said it is only bore sighted which will only get you on paper, he well if I can hit paper, its good enough for now he said....cant fix stupid !!
Those guys got the mysterious delay from me if itbwerent too late. They usually werent happy.

Re: Rifles - end around play #32325
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The Governor signed hb1231 today.

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.243 and larger right?
Was catching wind on FB that the "specific" calibers were dropped?


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.243 and larger right?
No, there are 5 "calibers" listed, but will need some technical clarifications.

.243
.30-30
.300
.30-06
.308


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32328
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It is done ... the Gov signed it today.

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Re: Rifles - end around play #32329
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OH BOY! eek Bring on the crazies! Might get me a bullet proof vest?

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OH BOY! eek Bring on the crazies! Might get me a bullet proof vest?
Don't forget the tin-foil hat :p


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Re: Rifles - end around play #32331
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So all the calibers legal before are still legal? What is .300? Is that 300 blackout?

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Yes, all calibers legal before will still be legal. As for which .300 it is, to be honest, the bill's author is probably the only one who knows the answer to that question at this point. The legislature will meet one day soon to clarify exactly which cartridges are now legal, and clean up the bill. I guess stuff like this happens all the time if they actually schedule a day annually to fix bills.

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Kind of scarey, really!


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They should have allowed it on state and federal ground as well since they passed it. With todays muzzleloaders its like having a HPR anyway. My buddy has one that uses rifle powder. If your going to pass a law like this anyway, you might as well make it for everyone. As far as how many rounds you have in a mag, doesn't matter either cause with todays guns, it only takes a sec to change a mag. Guys will carry several mags on them anyway. DNR will have there hands full cause you know as well as I do, people that own private property next to state or federal land will cross the property line with there rifles.

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I just love how people read this law and put it into words that are not written? I'm on a couple other sites on the FB and if the rifle season will be anything like some of the dumb questions on there, I may sit this year out! This whole thing is starting to get really scary! :rolleyes: Some people need to not produce offspring.

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Originally posted by M4Madness:
As for which .300 it is, to be honest, the bill's author is probably the only one who knows the answer to that question at this point. The legislature will meet one day soon to clarify exactly which cartridges are now legal, and clean up the bill.
I will only add that during the Senate hearing that Senator Steele pointed out that he owned a .300 Win Mag he would like to use.

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Do you think he's using enough gun?? :rolleyes:


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Originally posted by garman6:
I just love how people read this law and put it into words that are not written? I'm on a couple other sites on the FB and if the rifle season will be anything like some of the dumb questions on there, I may sit this year out! This whole thing is starting to get really scary! :rolleyes: Some people need to not produce offspring.
I'm with ya there, brother.


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