FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/24/2013 12:11 PM
06/24/2013 12:11 PM
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I attended the meeting representing the IDHA, and was interested in two topics during the meeting.
1. License fee increase; IDNR said they have talked to the Governors office who is not interested in increasing license fees as they see them as a "tax". At least not this early in his term, now that is funny.....no political! IDNR has a budget shortfall of 3+ million and is already 40 people short from needed staff. Law enforcement is also short of their allowed 221 officers and the gas prices and vehicle replacement is killing them. They are driving cars now over 150,000 miles as policy. I know so are we as citizens....
We proposed that IDNR needs to create a landowner license. They said if they could get one it would bring in $22.00 from PR monies for each livcense sold. But the license would need to be created in the legislature, and they wont be warm and fuzzy about another "tax". If we could get a $5.00 all inclusive yearly land owner license and plus the PR monie IDNR would be healthy again. Question is what do you all think? And Non resident land owners are already paying non resident fees at least those who are not reciprocal, this would end the reciprocal agreement.
2. PR monies; IDNR stated that we are now receiving $9 million dollars a year! double previous years prior to our present gun and ammo sales. I asked where that money was going and was told they are buying more land than ever before, all of the land touches F&W properties or stat forrests. All of this is more public hunting land ZERO goes to park land or Resivour properties.
We would like some feed back as it will take a grass roots effort to get legislative action on a landowner license. Remember over 1/2 of the deer taken each year are by non license buying hunters. Again an annual fee of less than $10.00 for all hunting for land owners.
Thanks in advance
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
#31299
06/24/2013 01:34 PM
06/24/2013 01:34 PM
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gundude
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I hunt my own property(s) for the most part yet still buy a license... I do however question how well those funds are used from time to time
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/24/2013 02:44 PM
06/24/2013 02:44 PM
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jbwhttail
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Ok let me add another element.
The North American wildlife models has 7 tenants, three of which are..........
1.Wildlife is owned by the citizens
2.Users pay for the management of wildlife
3.Wildlife is managed by professionals
Question would be, are not landowners a "user"?
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/24/2013 03:14 PM
06/24/2013 03:14 PM
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/24/2013 06:21 PM
06/24/2013 06:21 PM
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Where does it make a difference if any state has a landowner license, Indiana needs to lead .........not follow!
ThroBak has it correct get the Federal funds and watch our wildlife prosper.
PR funds are distributed by only two(2) criteria. Hunters and land mass, we will NEVER increase land mass like Texas and Pennsylvania has ................. but we CAN increase hunter numbers. We need an accurate number, that includes all land owners and dependents.......
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/24/2013 06:37 PM
06/24/2013 06:37 PM
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Was there any other option vs the Land owner License fee ????
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/24/2013 07:51 PM
06/24/2013 07:51 PM
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Joe, I have a lifetime license, but I'm in NO way in favor of a landowner license of any sort. Hunting/trapping is one of the ONLY things that does not cost you money (TAXED) when owning property. I am assuming we are primarily talking deer here. The way I see it is, the deer, squirrels, rabbits, and coons eat a he!! of a lot more in corn, beans, and alfalfa than any license fee. So, If I or my son wants wants to legally walk out the back door and go hunting, we shouldn't have to buy any license. Now, by your 3 of 7 aspects of the North American model you quoted above, when the "citizens" across the fence that only hunt, and don't farm want to pay ME for feeding their deer that they harvest, and the professionals want to come and manage the deer on MY farm the way I see fit........get my point Joe?
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/25/2013 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Yaz: Joe,
I have a lifetime license, but I'm in NO way in favor of a landowner license of any sort. Hunting/trapping is one of the ONLY things that does not cost you money (TAXED) when owning property. I am assuming we are primarily talking deer here. The way I see it is, the deer, squirrels, rabbits, and coons eat a he!! of a lot more in corn, beans, and alfalfa than any license fee. So, If I or my son wants wants to legally walk out the back door and go hunting, we shouldn't have to buy any license.
Now, by your 3 of 7 aspects of the North American model you quoted above, when the "citizens" across the fence that only hunt, and don't farm want to pay ME for feeding their deer that they harvest, and the professionals want to come and manage the deer on MY farm the way I see fit........get my point Joe? Agree. IDNR should manage there moneys like the average citizen has to do. If cuts are needed then do them and stop looking for the easy way out by putting another tax on over taxed landowners. Maybe hiring qualified business managers to allocate funds would be better idea than political appointees. h.h.
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/25/2013 12:31 PM
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jjas, yes today that is how it reads.
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: FWCC meeting 6/22/13
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06/25/2013 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by jbwhttail: jjas, yes today that is how it reads. Thanks for the response jb.
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