Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 09:17 AM
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Guess it's time to quit. The amended SB487 passed the committee this morning by a 6-2 vote. This is not an April Fool. Everyone needs to contact his representative and senator in the Indiana legislature and get them to vote this bill down right away.
Jack
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 10:15 AM
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Dam...... i needed another thing to do today....ok... illl do what i can!
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 10:46 AM
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Ill put a high fence in and sue the state then!!!!!!... this is completely insane... bought votes .. then again thats politics..
Called the Gov. Today.. i was aboit as nice about it as i could be ..in other words i was blunt!.. they said i could expect a return call very soon.......
Again... will someone tell me why we even have a dnr if their hands are tied?
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 11:11 AM
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Didn't I count 13 names on the committee list ? Who didn't show up and how did the others vote?
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 12:39 PM
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Good for Saunders. He's from my area. So 5 members of the committee failed to register a vote on the amendment. That is soooo sorry.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 01:41 PM
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Ive been so out od the loop in the last six months its unreal.. havent been to many meetings or anything else... my bad. Just no time..
Thanks to so many for your relentless efforts .. perhaps things will calm down soon and i will try to learn/help more..
Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 01:45 PM
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Here is the newly amended bill: http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2013/PDF/HCRF/CR048701.001.pdf I've only read this once but the season is from August 15-Feb 15. Guess they want to sell those deer in velvet. Oh, and there's no bag limit. I guess you shoot until you run out money. Also appears you could gun or bow hunt anytime. Remember that the original bill passed the Senate 48-0. Need every legislator contacted and asked to vote against this mess. Rep. Saunders mentioned being approached at a gas station and Wal-mart back home and asked to vote against this which he did. Contact your legislators today.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 03:27 PM
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Voting for was Eberhart, Ubelhor, Morris, Morrison, Heaton, and Kirchhofer.
Those testifying for the bill was Indiana Farm Bureau, North American Deer and Elk Farmers member and Vet from Illinois. A lobbiest and swine vet for the Purdue veternarin science. Mr. Bell a Deer Farmer how was featured on Channel 13 who wants in the the hunting but stopped after the ban. Of course the biggest advocates in the room were those legislators on the committee.
What is really clear through all of this is that many legislators have no fear of respect for sportsmen and the DNR. It is all about business
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 03:54 PM
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Come on dave.... that flys both ways on several issues..
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/01/2013 04:44 PM
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Some Keith, but when you consider this is almost a property rights thing, it makes sense. Now, yes, on many other issues, liberals states do stupid things also.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/02/2013 11:02 AM
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I got anorher call from back from the governors office... she asked a few more questions and said my message would be noted ..... in other words nothing!!!... anybody got his personal cell number?..lol...
Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/02/2013 11:05 AM
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I got anorher call from back from the governors office... she asked a few more questions and said my message would be noted ..... in other words nothing!!!... anybody got his personal cell number?..lol...
Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/02/2013 12:01 PM
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Call Senator Steele and tell him to get that s@$t off his bill or you won't support it.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/02/2013 03:09 PM
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I tried .. letters to the bloomington paper about this will stir the dust
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/02/2013 06:36 PM
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Can the senate take this amendment off their bill ? Doesn't the house have to vote on the bill first? Can someone tell me how this works? Its' been 37 years since I've had Civics.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/03/2013 03:45 AM
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Red, yes and yes. This issue was amended into another bill and if/when the House passes it, it will go back to the Senate for approval. But, the Senate and the bill's sponsor in the Senate will have to approve the added language, which they may decide not to do.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/03/2013 05:55 AM
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I still maintain the best option is to stop it at the House vote on Friday. Everyone contact as many legislators as possible.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/03/2013 03:16 PM
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Looks like the bill won't get to the floor of the House until Monday so get to your rep on Saturday if you can.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/04/2013 10:12 AM
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May need to make a trip to the farm Dale!
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/04/2013 04:50 PM
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fantastic!
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/04/2013 10:03 PM
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Good article....love to see 'em all go away for good...
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/05/2013 11:44 AM
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If Davisd Long gets it done watch next year, the deer industry will try to buy him off as they have others.
Since 1999 all the groups in Indiana have constantly on the defense, I think now is the time to go on offence. Time to protect our wild herd, and as there is no state or federal money available for clean up should CWD be found in a captive herd, write new rules that owners of domestic cervids need to carry insurance on their property to cover cleanup and depopulation expences.
Look at Wisconsin who has spent over 50 million dollars. They had to pay to depopulate the farm that had CWD, bought the farm at $400,000.00, double fence said farm AND try to contain CWD in the wild herd. Indiana does not have the money, the Feds have discontinued any funding for CWD.
IMO, if you want to "farm" deer, or shoot domestic deer you as an owner operator should cover any costs associated with your business. That includes cleaning up the mess CWD brings.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/05/2013 12:51 PM
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Well said Joe. Let private enterprise be responsible for it's actions and consequences.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/05/2013 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by jbwhttail: write new rules that owners of domestic cervids need to carry insurance on their property to cover cleanup and depopulation expences.
IMO, if you want to "farm" deer, or shoot domestic deer you as an owner operator should cover any costs associated with your business. That includes cleaning up the mess CWD brings. AMEN!!!!!!! I have to pay insurance in case MY livestock gets out, and causes an accident, or does crop damage to a neighbors farm, or any other kind of damage. THEY SHOULD TOO! BUT, that is still not a reason to let it happen.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/06/2013 05:02 AM
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Is this Bill "dead" for this year now?????
Seen rumor of this on another form.
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Re: Canned hunting bill should be canned for good
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04/06/2013 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by BREW...: Is this Bill "dead" for this year now?????
Seen rumor of this on another form. I never count the deer farmers out until the session is over. Right now the amended bill is on the House schedule to be voted on Monday. http://www.in.gov/legislative/reports/2013/BCALH.PDF Senator Long controls much of what occurs in the Senate and I believe he can stop this amended bill from being heard or strip the amendment off and send it back to the House. Senator Steele can also decline to have the amendment attached to the bill and kill it that way. http://www.indystar.com/article/201...h-fence-hunting-amendment?nclick_check=1 But I'll believe it when it happens. Jack
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