Re: leg hold question
#21908
03/07/2013 05:59 PM
03/07/2013 05:59 PM
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Yaz
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Coyotes can and have been caught in all sizes of traps, from #1.5's on up. Here is what I have found out trapping coyotes....the hard way,. Go with the biggest, heaviest, stoutest trap you can legally set above the water line. I have had good traps completely destroyed and made unusable by coyotes. They will pull the jaws out, bend the frames and dogs, break chains, and pull the stakes. Now, the ONLY trap I will set for them is a fully modified Bridger #3 with offset jaws. My traps have an extra strap welded to the frame, 4 coils, and laminations welded to the jaws to help prevent bend and pulled out jaws. Even then, a big male will still bend the crap out of them, and I have to spend the time to straighten them back out. I also keep them on a fairly short chain to keep them from getting leverage when lunging. All my traps also have a heavy spring shock adsorber attached in line on the chain. I now use the cable stakes, and they are a lot easier to use, and drive then rebar. They also hold a lot better than rebar, and I have not lost a trap with this setup.
You could get by with a #2 trap. Some brands of trap are naturally built heavier than others. A fully Mod'ed #2 would probably hold up fairly well. BUT, for the small difference in price, I elected to go with the #3's. I KNOW I won't have many problems with those.
When selecting a trap, just be sure of the jaw spread, and the spread on the frame. Not all sizes of traps have the same inside measurements. Additionally, once a jaw spread reaches a certain size, it is required to have an offset to be set above the water line. FYI, I think the last 6 traps I bought, with this setup, it was about $22.00 per trap. Thats adding in the shock and cable stake.
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Re: leg hold question
#21910
03/08/2013 11:41 AM
03/08/2013 11:41 AM
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trapperDave
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#3 coil or bigger,offset jaws
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Re: leg hold question
#21912
03/10/2013 06:19 PM
03/10/2013 06:19 PM
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Yaz
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Here ya go..... Bottom trap is non-mod. It has a single frame. Top trap has a second strap riveted to the frame. Also notice how the bottom trap's frame is bent. The chain is attached in the center of the frame, and as they lunge, the frame bends. Once it bends enough, it allows the jaws to be pulled out of the hinges. Second mod is the laminations on the jaws. It keeps the jaws from being bent, and pulled out. The laminations also add more surface area on the jaw faze. Really helps hold magically caught yotes. This is something that has always bugged me, and actually gives the trap away on occasion. The loose jaw (front), sits up higher than back jaw, and the pan. If a coyote doesn't step right on the pan, that jaw is up higher and they can feel it. Its also harder to bed properly, The four coils come from the factory that way. I tack a small weld on the back jaw so that it pushes down on the spring levers, and it then drops down level. Like this. You can buy the traps modified. I have a few left that I will modify myself in the off season. The only other thing I do is put an inline spring (shock) on the chain. You can see it on the top picture. In spite of all that, they still bend the dogs, and tear them up on occasion.
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Re: leg hold question
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03/11/2013 06:56 PM
03/11/2013 06:56 PM
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hornharvester
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Yas, That is pretty neat, did you think that up? I dont have or use any leg holds but a neighbor down the road has a shed full of different traps. He's in his 70's and hasnt trapped in several years. Maybe I can borrow a few and see how it goes. You got any links to good reads about setting leg holds? h.h.
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Re: leg hold question
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03/12/2013 01:56 PM
03/12/2013 01:56 PM
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Haymaker
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I agree Yaz, Trapperman is awesome. If you new to trapping all the info can almost be overwhelming. The archives are loaded with extremely valuable information.
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