Ok Cody how many deer are you looking at. 3states several counties. Could be why you poked at my quote and what are u looking to accomplish. Big bucks obviously,numbers,or general. You missed my point that I believe the deer are still there just moved(which) you mention. Housing editions and Human pressure. Predation not so much "in my opinion". Loved the chainsaw response create funnels and habitat. But the workin man can only do so much. Not trying to argue just understand what ur lookin at. I've personally killed 3 book makers and just missed by 2/8 on another. Lot of work involved. You can leave it alone or hash it out. My point was. The only way I got permission was by owners saying the same. New eyes come in and find sign and do the job. The next year they all are back to hunting. Learned to live with it as I was just taking 2 so I could go back to bass. But since breaking my back that could change. Like I said not a poke just a question that is why you posted it